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This thing which just happened:

So a few minutes ago I was talking to

psychswitch on the phone so he'd know when we're going to see Land of the Dead. Someone knocked on the door, and the dog started going all crazy so I had to see who it was. It turns out, it was these two guys from the Baptist church handing out those little fliers they have. Not the good ones like comics, but the regular ones inviting us to come worship with them.

Without even thinking I was like, "Oh, no...well, I'm a witch. Thanks." I showed them my tatoo and was like, "Thanks guys, really. But I'm good." They wished me a good evening and left. Suddenly, I found that very funny.

Maybe because my tat is in some ways "Protective". And today, it protected me from an intrusive assault by the local baptists. Could you imagine if you were having a gathering and just randomly started knocking on doors inviting people? *shudder*

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that so rocks!!!!

I have a hard enough time knocking on the doors of my friends..I cannot fathom knocking on strangers doors..maybe that is why I hardly sold any girl scout cookies as a kid!

Ha!

You must have sold some cookies. Those things are delicious!

only to my relatives...all the other girlscouts either beat me in my own nieghborhood, or I was too afraid to knock on the door!!

Actually, my late Mom used to have a lot of fun at the expense of passing Evangelist-types. She'd always invite them in, listen to their script, then talk rings around them, because she knew their material a LOT better than they did. Always left confused, and rarely made return trips. In door-to-door pestering school, they prepare you for hostility, but they don't prepare you for people who know anything about religion.

I sometimes wonder what happened to those unfortunates who crossed our threshold...did their minds start to melt down?

That's awesome. There's a fabulous episode of Malcom in the Middle where Dewey convinced a nun that God doesn't care about people.

Classic.

Your mom sounds like she was a Class Act!
Brainy fun is the best kind.

Yeah, she was. Easily one of the most tolerant people I've known, yet with an endearing "cranky activist" streak. I recall (in the early 70's) some politician in Erie holding some sort of public meeting on the local PBS station, to talk about Pornography (see under: "terrible public threat")...she went up (nice bespectacled middle-aged woman) and sat in the front row, so they'd call her when she raised her hand. Of course, they did. First words she said were, "I think pornography is JUST FINE!..." so the guy had to do a quick verbal dance to get her to shut up and he could choose somebody who was a little more with the Program...

That is awesome!

Reminscent of when John Denver spoke to Congress at the PMRC hearings. Tipper totally thought he was on thier side when he instead talked about the persecution he felt after releasing Rocky Mountain High. Apartently people thought it was about weed.

Guess ultimately he proved his love of flying...

Yep! Good ol' John Denver...

My favorite comments to the PMRC, as usual, were from Frank Zappa, who was polite and eloquent.

Scary days...

I've found that most evangelists are pretty nice people. I mean, they feel it's their God-given duty to ask people to come to the Lord. In most cases, if I politely say no, they politely accept that. Seriously - there's this dude on campus who invited me to his church when I first started. I said no thank you and he said something to the effect of "Well, if you're interested it's called Crossroads and it's on (I can't remember Rd). Here's one of their cards. We've also got this group on campus, Campus Crusaders and we meet at _____ on _____ (can't remember). He gave me a flier and his name and e-mail addy. He still talks to me when he sees me, has probably invited me again less than five times and mostly, we just shoot the shit. I'd say most evangelists should be like him. *shrugs* That is a funny story though.

I find it very presumptuous for people to knock on your door to ask you to join thier religion. It's not like they are freinds of mine and think I might be a good fit with the church...they are total strangers who simply think what they are doing is what EVERYONE should do.

So I don't mind fucking with them a bit.
But I'm always polite.

Yeah. Most of the evangelists who approach me walk up to me on the street. Walking onto private property isn't very polite. I thought you even said you had a 'no solicitors' sign up. Some people ignore those though. I had a Jehovah's witness bugging me for about two months. I was told by a girl who was raised that way that they were told to hit Catholics, pagens, athiests and homosexuals the hardest. Honest to Pete. Well, she's non-denominational Christian and invites people to church but she genuinely becomes friends first. I mean, she'll talk to people in her class or at her work, grab lunch or something a few times . . . she's known to have an occasional beer at a Sports Bar (like, she treats it as a beverage). So . . . her inviting me to church isn't really rude. The dude on campus is nice too. They're probably more successful in recruiting.

I'm digging your icon!

Thanks man,

lame_squad is pretty cool.

It's something of a misnomer.

Too bad you didn't remind them you were a Democrat, and like a moth to a flame you couldn't help but attack Christianity just like Rep. Hostettler said. I mean imagine, living in a country with religous freedom. Who would get on a boat for that?! ;-)

(sorry, its early)

Tee hee.

Like the new icon, btw.

Thank you. It was actually the "Old" Icon, but I filled up on Icons. Now that I have lots of them again, I can reexamine my icony choices.

I think it's odd that you think someone knocking at your door and offering you what they believe to be enlightenment is an intrusive assault. If someone offered you a hundred dollar bill would you find it so intrusive?

HA! You're awesome Wednesday!

Thanks, toots.

You're not so bad yourself!

Actually, my use of the word "assault" was ironic and comical. Having been assaulted, I do know the difference, of course. I'm more susprised that you don't know me better by now...

But as I said earlier, I do find it intrusive and presumptuous for a random stranger to knock on your door to tell you thier religion is better than yours. If pagans did that, we'd probably get beaten up.

You have to look at it from their POV. Well you don't actually. But if you did, it would go something like this.

I love Christ. I feel so happy loving Christ. Everyone shoudl be this happy. I should encourage people to love Christ so that they can feel as happy as I do.

They actually think that what they are offering is worth more than a 100 dollar bill.

I'm not sure where you got this from. The Baptists engage in a contest every summer to bring in the most new people to "worship with them". The winner gets a new Bible.

Mormons and others also adhere to the beleif that if they convert a lot of people it will guarantee them a place in heaven. Not the person they are converting, but THEM. And as a convertee, you need to convert others to secure a place in heaven. Those people couldn't give a rat's ass about my soul.

It really harkens me back to our conversation about all acts being inherently selfish.

However, even if I did think they were purely selfless in trying to convert me, it is absurd to think they know what is best for a total stranger. I think many Xians would be happier if they didn't feel guilty for masturbating or think divorce was a sin or whatever...but it's inappropriate to show up unannounced at thier home for the express purpose of converting them.

So mormonism is like a pyramid scam.

My point was more that they don't believe it to be rude. Manners are subjective. If I can't expect people to telepathically know that I don't like to be hugged, then how can you expect people to telepathically know that you don't want to find enlightenment through Christ. But when you told them, they left. That's the difference between a polite person and a rude person. A rude person would have insisted on preaching to you.

You would understand if you weren't such a godless heathen.

I do realize that there are different viewpoints on this. But even with that in mind, it seems like the average person would not like a stranger to knock in thier door to ask them to workship with them.

Spirituality is intensly personal and not an appropriate topic for polite conversation. Miss Manners even says so, and Ann Landers agrees. Besides, even if another pagan came to my door and did the same thing, I would still find it rude.

However, if I ask them to leave and they don't, they aren't being impolite. They are tresspassing.

I'm not defending them. I'm just saying that they don't know any better. Devout christians are like children. They are very simple minded.

But see, that's not really the case. H and his family are very devout. Even fundies have some very smart people among thier ranks. I do know the type to which you refer, but that is not all or even most Christians.

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