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wednes ([personal profile] wednes) wrote2009-07-16 09:06 am

Harry Potter and the Needing of the Shave

For some reason I'm just now getting around to posting that I went to the midnight show for Harry Potter 6 on Tuesday. Fandom was, as expected, ridiculous and absurd. The little kids were the most well-behaved, their parents were the worst, and silly teens in "sexy" Hogwarts uniforms cracked me up. Oh Fandom, you embarass yourself and me.

I liked it very much. I've learned to steel myself against being annoyed at all the stuff they would certainly cut out. I wanted to see the "other minister," the long version of Bella and Snape's exchange at Spinners End, house elves, Dumbledore vs Dursleys, the battle at the end, and the Gaunts. No dice. Why add an extra action scene if it just means taking one out later? There was precious little Minerva...and she is looking pretty old. Plus, where the hell was Bill Weasley? They made such a to-do about casting Brendan Gleeson's son and he was nowhere to be found. Frownie McFrownerson.

Oh the plus side, Draco and Snape were amazing. Helena Bonham Carter is a major girl-crush for me, and she was awesome. Luna was delightful in every single scene she was in. The girl they got for LavLav was delightfully annoying. There was lots to laugh about, and lots to like. I was pleased with the movie overall but I really need to see it again. When I see a movie like that, espcially sitting in the third row, I feel like I only got a glimpse of it. I'm stoked to see the extra footage at IMAX.

I knew Albus's death would not affect me as much as the book. I have never been into Michael Gambon's Dumbledore, as I think he misses what I consider to be Dumbledores most notable qualities. Specifically, his unfailing politeness. Gambon gets mad, he snaps at people, and just lacks the air of grandeur that makes Dumbledore such an amazing character. Richard Harris was spot-on. Stupid Death ruining my films!
Not much Greyback, to my dismay. If I didn't already know he was a werewolf, I don't think the movie would have told me. Anyway, those are the broad strokes of it.

Made a rather depressing realization about my personal life. When I was younger and in the dating scene I had a serious issue with proactivity. If I decided the person I was dating was unsuitable for me, I would never do the breaking up. Instead, I would just stop caring what the person thought of me, and treated them accordingly. When they broke up with me, I could then pretend that I was being victimized. Apparently this is a pretty common pattern among survivors of abuse.
I was disappointed to become aware that I repeated this same pattern with a person I was in a supposed friendship with. Rather than being clear about saying I don't like you. I don't enjoy your company. I'd rather not interact with you unless I have to. I bascially reverted to what I'd call "not putting up with their shit." This translates to me not being remotely respectful of the fact that the person I don't like has feelings. I thought that I had progressed beyond that kind of passive aggresive game playing. Apparently not. So yeah...that was a bummer. On the plus side, the situation exploded and now I don't have to pretend not to dislike anyone anymore.

[identity profile] hellamama.livejournal.com 2009-07-16 01:50 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm jealous. I know I won't see the movie until it is on PPV, due to the whole two small children issue. I haven't been to a movie since I was pregnant with HR (summer 2006!)

Glad you're realizing this pattern is still with you. That may help you catch yourself earlier next time.

[identity profile] wednes.livejournal.com 2009-07-16 02:50 pm (UTC)(link)
I often have trouble finding people around me who like the same movies I do. H will see horror, for example, as a favor to me but he's not into it. I was lucky I found someone cool to see HP with. Seriously though, movies are one of my great joys in life. I'd be really bummed if I couldn't get swept up in fandom every once in awhile.

Yeah, it's a bummer about the so-called friendship, but I'm better off with the increased knowlege of self. I hope so anyway. ;-/

[identity profile] sudrin.livejournal.com 2009-07-16 03:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Its adult of you to even notice it and that's what is important. I've done the same thing myself. Without going into too many details, I've done exactly the same thing and kicked myself later. The circumstance was slightly different, but the response was very similar and it was childish of me. I am proud of you for being aware enough of your own mind to point it out and try and do something about it.

[identity profile] wednes.livejournal.com 2009-07-16 03:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks man, I'm trying to console myself by keeping that very thing in mind. Being with H for so many years, I'm less aware of overall relationship patterns than I might be otherwise. H and I talked about this situation, and he basically said he was impressed that I didn't blow up at this person years earlier.

[identity profile] lickingtoad.livejournal.com 2009-07-16 07:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Wait ... so you're saying 'People we don't like have feelings anyway?'

(Shit. I gotta ... uh ... make some phone calls ...)

Tee-hee. Seriouser, though -- people who weaponize their emotions deserve pity *first,* and respect if you can get around to it.

[identity profile] wednes.livejournal.com 2009-07-16 07:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, this person already has my pity. They are, as you know, one of the most unhappy people I know and also the most unwilling to do even the simplest things about it.

Admitting you're emotionally crippled and not able to be proactive about it is one thing. Lashing out at everyone around around you because you can't even begin to consider engaging in introspection...that's just a walking joke. You know, the kind of joke that infuriates me to the point of madness. Plus, I'm sure you know my well-broadcast feelings about abusive people.

[identity profile] jeffpalmatier.livejournal.com 2009-07-16 09:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Rather than being clear about saying I don't like you. I don't enjoy your company. I'd rather not interact with you unless I have to. I bascially reverted to what I'd call "not putting up with their shit." This translates to me not being remotely respectful of the fact that the person I don't like has feelings. I thought that I had progressed beyond that kind of passive aggresive game playing. Apparently not. So yeah...that was a bummer.

Jeez, that's a really hard situation to deal with anyway no matter what you do. If you would have been upfront with him, I don't think it would have ended any better than it did. It sounds like you were in a real dilemma. Also, it's not surprising that most of us avoid confrontation and hard feelings whenever possible. I used to get so angry with myself for avoiding conflict and being so passive, but when I got more assertive and confrontational, I learned that doing so usually didn't lead anywhere positive anyway and often made the situation worse.

[identity profile] wednes.livejournal.com 2009-07-16 10:18 pm (UTC)(link)
*nods* I hear you man. I'm trying to find the line where assertiveness becomes confrontation so I can embrace one while avoiding the other. So far, it's all pretty subjective. It was a tricky situation, but I'm still seeing this as a Fail.

[identity profile] locakitty.livejournal.com 2009-07-16 09:44 pm (UTC)(link)
I was kind of disappointed with the movie. During some of the scenes, I felt like they just phoned in their performances.

But, yes, you put your finger on what bothers me about this Dumbledore, no politeness, no knowing looks, he just isn't richard harris. I may get the dvd with the special features if it's going to have the extra scenes, maybe they would be worth watching.

[identity profile] wednes.livejournal.com 2009-07-16 10:24 pm (UTC)(link)
I didn't notice anyone's performance lacking, but I've only seen it once. I'm sure I'll have many more opinions after I check out the IMAX.

That's really the problem with Gambon. Richard Harris was so perfect that if somebody else tries to be that perfect a Dumbledore, it appears that they are impersonating Richard Harris. I understand the urge to bring something new to the character. I just don't agree with Gambon's choices and think they directly contradict the way the character is written.

[identity profile] locakitty.livejournal.com 2009-07-17 06:20 am (UTC)(link)
Yes. For example, in GOF, he actually put his hands on Harry in anger. NOT in the book and not something that Dumbledore would EVER do to a student.

That really turned me off from him playing that character right there.

[identity profile] rivetkitten.livejournal.com 2009-07-18 10:59 am (UTC)(link)
It doesn't help that he hasn't read the books...

[identity profile] wednes.livejournal.com 2009-07-18 07:32 pm (UTC)(link)
I've often wondered about whether or not he'd read them.
That's too bad.

[identity profile] spiralwitch.livejournal.com 2009-07-17 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
i thought the same thing about minerva... she's aged 10 years between films. but she still rocks.

when i looked over at my sister at albus's death - she had her hand over her mouth in utter horror (she knew it was coming) - me, the snape lover, smiled. not that i don't like albus - i just like the evil protagonist characters more.

[identity profile] wednes.livejournal.com 2009-07-17 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
LOL, yeah...you gotta love the Spy.

[identity profile] opaqueplanet.livejournal.com 2009-07-17 01:40 am (UTC)(link)
Hi! You added me a while back, and I checked out your journal. You looked like my kinda person, so I added you back.

I got all the way into the comments before realizing that you weren't [livejournal.com profile] your_downfall, though (I guess I tend not to look at usernames and just guess at who I'm reading by what they're talking about). So I guess I'd better get to know you better.

I'm Cassandra, pleased to meet you. I live in Saskatoon, Canada. I think we know each other through [livejournal.com profile] flemco or Warren Ellis or something. I am queer and socialist and I pride myself on not being an asshole in internet debates, while still getting my point accross. I have Opinions.

[identity profile] wednes.livejournal.com 2009-07-17 02:22 am (UTC)(link)
Right on. Yeah, you replied to my comment over at [livejournal.com profile] flemco. I checked out your profile/journal and added you because I dig the smart, outspoken type of chick.

James did the intense and evocative cover design for my first novel. Don't know if you read his prose, but he has a wicked collection of short stories out.

I pride myself on not being an asshole in internet debates
Dude, you've no idea how much I desire to have articulate internet debates with someone who isn't an asshole. For serious.

[identity profile] opaqueplanet.livejournal.com 2009-07-17 03:34 am (UTC)(link)
I own a copy of On the Banks of Lethe and Digging Up Corpses. Good stuff!

I believe a skilled debater can firmly put someone in their place without being an asshole. It just takes effort.

[identity profile] wednes.livejournal.com 2009-07-17 03:43 am (UTC)(link)
I bought James' novel but haven't taken the time to read it. I'm on moratorium on reading until I finish my current manuscript.

As to the debating, I strenuously concur.

[identity profile] lickingtoad.livejournal.com 2009-07-17 04:39 pm (UTC)(link)
I prefer to be an asshole, and put someone in their place if it's convenient. (/snark)

Bwa-ha-ha!

[identity profile] wednes.livejournal.com 2009-07-17 06:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Hey C, are you coming over on Sunday?

[identity profile] lickingtoad.livejournal.com 2009-07-18 02:09 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm out at 9, I'll be over in the vicinity of 9:15ish.

[identity profile] wednes.livejournal.com 2009-07-18 07:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Sweet.

[identity profile] rivetkitten.livejournal.com 2009-07-18 11:06 am (UTC)(link)
I saw HP last night, and I was somewhat disappointed with two changes right at the end. The movie changing why Harry couldn't help Dumbledore in the astronomy tower was a big one for me, since it changed Harry's personal involvement. Instead of not physically being able to help, he seemed more... paralyzed by fear? Or something? That bugged me, since now he's probably going to be kicking himself for not helping when he (thinks he) could have at least tried.

The second part was the Battle of Hogwarts. What was the point of having all the other deatheaters coming in to Hogwarts? To help Draco kill Dumbledore? If that were the case, then why would he have been working on fixing the vanishing cabinet, even while trying the cursed necklace and the poisoned mead? No sense!

Yeah, I REALLY wanted to see the battle. I'm very annoyed that they left it out.

[identity profile] wednes.livejournal.com 2009-07-18 07:33 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree. And I really wanted to see Bill.

[identity profile] darklyfey.livejournal.com 2009-07-21 04:04 pm (UTC)(link)
You said: When they broke up with me, I could then pretend that I was being victimized. Apparently this is a pretty common pattern among survivors of abuse.

OH hell yes. One of the most difficult aspects of my recovery has been getting honest, both with myself and with the people I'm involved with. This has earned me the nickname of Metatron in some circles. I tell it like it is before things get ugly and I'm hiding behind victim-hood. It's *terrifying* but the consequences of telling the truth are far better for me than the consequences of staying in victim mode. I respect you so much that you recognized the pattern. Good on ya!

[identity profile] wednes.livejournal.com 2009-07-21 05:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks, man. I do consider it an acheivement in terms of personal growth.