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wednes ([personal profile] wednes) wrote2005-07-15 01:01 am
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*Gasp*

I must tell you, I blame many people for my obsessive reading on Grizzlies and Grizzly Bear attacks over the last day or so. First, I blame Timothy Treadwell for being so flamboyantly bear-loving and attracting attention to both sides of the issue. Side one being that bears are cool and people should like them. Side two being that like active volcanoes, bears may hurt you if you try to hug them.

Getting freindly with other pagans has certainly acquainted me with the noble bear. Plus seeing the black bears up close with K and N on vacation was utterly amazing. If a black bear attacks you, you could very well die. If a brown bear attacks you, you will almost certainly be killed and eaten.

In fact, Brown Bears (also called Grizzlies in case you don't watch nature shows) are among a very elite group of animals that actually will attack and kill humans for food. Unlike sharks who generally let us go after one bite, and snakes who will poison us but cannot possibly eat us...when male brown bears kill people they are usually found to be starving later on. Then of course, there is the whole mama bear protecting the cubs thing. But that is pretty obvious and not really unique to bears although they are damn good at that whole thing.

Anyway, I won't post it here because I can't quite bring myself to; but if you google "Grizzly Attack" there is a most horrible picture of a guy whose leg has been pretty much devoured by a bear. Coudl be Treadwell, could be not. Probably not because it doesn't say. In case you can't tell, I'm fascinated by this.

[identity profile] brettsyboy.livejournal.com 2005-07-15 05:32 am (UTC)(link)
only the thumbnail is working, but it looks freakin gruesome, rock on

[identity profile] wednes.livejournal.com 2005-07-15 06:02 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I probably would've posted a bigger pic under a cut. But yeah, it's gruesome enough as is.

[identity profile] psychswitch.livejournal.com 2005-07-15 05:36 am (UTC)(link)
Have you seen the guy that created a suit, called the mk 4 i believe, he put it on and had a grizzly attack him to prove its strength, ive got a magzine article you should read about it.
And sorry i didnt come and see you i was at my buddys house trying to procure certain items. wich of course fell through, as per usual.

[identity profile] wednes.livejournal.com 2005-07-15 06:04 am (UTC)(link)
Dude, why do you insist on dealing with these people? The pizza at the usual store is on super markdown and you won't show up here so I can't tell you about it. I could've hooked you up 2 days ago, silly.

[identity profile] wednes.livejournal.com 2005-07-15 06:12 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, and that would be the Ursus Mark IV.

[identity profile] nate101000.livejournal.com 2005-07-15 04:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Call me 313-205-9080

[identity profile] haroeris-astrum.livejournal.com 2005-07-15 07:52 am (UTC)(link)
Let us go after one bite - that is so generous

[identity profile] wednes.livejournal.com 2005-07-15 08:19 am (UTC)(link)
Oh c'mon. They don't have arms...how else are they gonna check things out?

Besides, there are some very foolproof methods to avoid shark attack. Like oh...I don't know...STAYING ON LAND!

;-}

[identity profile] haroeris-astrum.livejournal.com 2005-07-15 08:27 am (UTC)(link)
When I lived on the coast, the nearest that a shark was ever caught was three miles off the coast. I was unlikely to swim halfway up the pier.

[identity profile] squamous.livejournal.com 2005-07-15 01:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Hrm there was a documentary on Lewis & Clark that I saw on cable awhile back that had a funny segment on grizzly bears, but I can't recall the name of the documentary. But, it discussed how the expedition heard about the bears from Indians before they encountered any, and were really curious about them - were they really that big, that dangerous, that hard to kill. They wanted to see one. Then after they finally saw such a bear, one member of the expedition wrote, "The men's curiosity is now quite satisifed."

It wasn't a major part of the show unfortunately but was pretty interesting.

[identity profile] wednes.livejournal.com 2005-07-16 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
Man...just imagine what dealing with Grizzlies was like when all you had was a fucking bow and arrow?!?

[identity profile] cmdavi-70.livejournal.com 2005-07-15 08:14 pm (UTC)(link)
To be technical, the polar bear is considerably more powerful and aggressive than a grizzly. Still, even though bears of all varieties can and have hurt humans, people are statistically more likely to get eaten or mauled by another human than by a bear. On the occasion that it does happen, either a person has done something exceptionally stupid such as taking a picture of a mother bear with her cubs, or the bear is desperately hungry. Bears just want to be left alone to eat salmon an berries and procreate and other bear stuff. Though I'm sure you already know this.

[identity profile] wednes.livejournal.com 2005-07-16 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
Indeed I do (know this already, of course).

The bear hierarchy as I know it is as follows:

Kodiak bear: largest of all land predators

Polar bear: heaviest bear (no longer considered a land-predator, pb's have been reclassified as acquatic within the last few years.

Grizzly bear: still quite formidable

Black bears: not exactly cute and cuddly, but very unlikly to attack a person under normal circumstances.

Then you have your pandas, sun bears, sloth bears and the like. All bears are potentially dangerous to humans but I still contend that most attacks (Treadwell included) are not the fault of the bear.