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wednes ([personal profile] wednes) wrote2003-03-15 06:11 pm
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Ever look at the Email you get from someone and wonder why you even still know them?

I just got the craziest Email from one of my old Fraternity peeps. (I was a member of a co-ed house in college). It was a forward about some woman who was of a culture where women keep thier faces covered (muslim I guess), and she wanted to get a drivers liscense and it was a big to-do because no one could think of a way to handle the situation properly (with respect to both rules and people).

So apparently, they let the woman take her DL photo with a scarf over her face. And the Email goes on to say how people have some nerve to expect us to change our rules for them! I agree that that particular issue is debatable, but it goes on to say shit like "speak the language if you're going to live here" --as if someone would go out of thier way to not speak english in an english speaking country. It then said some crap about this being a nation under God and how "in god we trust" is the motto of our country.

What about love thy neighbor as thyself? What about the great american metling pot? What about the fact that learning a new language--particularly English, is fucking difficult and takes time? What about the fact that there are non-natives who have lived here less than a year who speak better english than half the cutomers that rent from Blockbuster.

The Email even had crap in it about how since government is Christian, and that schools should have Christian stuff on the walls. As if separation of church and state is just passe.
I wont even go into stuff on the sacredness of the "American Lifestyle."

Bottom line is I couldn't beleive that I had studied, lauhged, cried, loved, gotten drunk with etc: someone who beleives such right-wing nationalistic bullshit. And who thought that I must share enough similar beleifs to send me such an Email??
It makes me second-guess my own behavior...like do I give the impression that I am an intolerant rascist? I certainly hope not.

Anyway, I'm going to see Willard tonight. The next best thing to seeing my hot, hot boss.

[identity profile] skoolgrl1979.livejournal.com 2003-03-15 07:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh man. Well, I SORT of understand about the part that the license is for ID but still... if she wants to wear the veil, she should be able to wear it. I'm not gonna hold it against her b/c it's part of her culture. Making her take it off is like telling a Christian person to take off the cross necklace or an orthox Jewish person to take off their... um, thing I can't spell. (Sorry). Yeah, I don't know why your friend sent that to you. Maybe they changed their views to be totally right wing or else accidently sent it to you. I don't know. I get e-mails like that all the time (well, not that extreme but along the same lines) from relatives who think God should be brought back into the schools. I mean, if a person wants to pray in public I say go ahead but don't expect everyone to join you. Pray to whoever(s) you want to, really. Or don't pray to anyone. I don't say "under God" when I say the Pledge of Allegience but I don't get mad if other people do. I consider myself Unitarian but I respect Christians, Jewish people, Muslim people, Pagens... you get the idea. Um... back to the licence thing. I don't understand why they'd send that to you either. Weird.

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[identity profile] wednes.livejournal.com 2003-03-15 11:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Actually, he has since apologized and said that he hadn't read it very well.

[identity profile] uterdic.livejournal.com 2003-03-16 02:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Not for identification, a cross around someones neck will not keep another person from identifying them later. This may be considered a cultural thing, but it's a religious thing. If that's the case and she can wear a veil for her photo, I'm going to protest that I feel the need to wear a ski mask whereveer I go and get it on my drivers license. Same argument, but I'll get turned down because I'm a white male, and it's not a religious statement. In a country where church and state are supposed to be separated. I could also refuse to show my face to a trooper and promptly get arrested for it. If she (women in article can do it) then everybody should be able to do it for similiar reasons.

And good for you about the whole "Under God" Part of the Pledge of Allegience wasn't added until around 1953 when the US Govt made a huge effort to make us look better then the godless commies in Russia. Until then, 150 years of this allegience was said without the mention of God.