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wednes ([personal profile] wednes) wrote2010-05-13 02:22 am
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On FanFic, as if no one knows what I think...

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My feelings on fanfic are well documented. But since it's the topic of the day, I'll indulge myself.

I first became aware of fanfic on the Internets. Some people had written some stories based on characters from the various works of Poppy Z Brite. Being a horror fan (and Poppy, a horror writer at the time), I was curious. The fic was awful. Really, really awful. Spelling and grammar not quite as awful as teenagers write on Facebook these days, but it was close. I wasn't writing my own novels at the time, but I was incensed at the idea that people would write and post work with characters ripped off from "real writers." As such, I dismissed the very idea of fanfiction outright.

Years later, I met someone who was very into the fanfic thing. She wrote about in a fandom that I like (Harry Potter) and is, in fact, an evocative and engaging writer. She's popular in places where people go for fanfic, and in fact, has many more readers than I do. Many, many more. I briefly toyed with the idea of writing some fanfic of my own. But I couldn't do it.

In the end, fanfic feels like literary masturbation--especially considering that a lot of it is filthy. If I'm going to spend time writing, I want to spend it writing things I can share--things that are valid and relevant enough to make it worthwhile for people to read them. There may be a way to do that through fanfic, but I have no idea what that might be. It just feels like daydreaming or something. I just have this vague sense that fanfic isn't what writing is.

For the record, I would NOT want anyone to write fanfic based on any of my characters. If I want Sadie to end up someplace, I'll put her there myself. So if anyone is ever silly enough to do such a thing, for goodness sake do not post it on the internets.
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[personal profile] itches 2010-05-13 08:39 am (UTC)(link)
'and in fact, has many more readers than I do'

You started out so close to hitting the deference between a writer of fanfiction and a "real" writer.

'If I'm going to spend time writing, I want to spend it writing things I can share'

And then you somehow ended up here.

The difference? A writer of fanfiction is more likely to have their writings read.
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[identity profile] jere7my.livejournal.com 2010-05-13 04:11 pm (UTC)(link)
If this is true, it's because fanfic writers use characters and settings that were pre-popularized for their convenience. They're writing for an audience that already exists. It's the same reason it's much easier for unknown bands to get people excited about covers of popular songs than their own music.

That said, if you write well, people will want to read what you write whether it's fanfic or not. If you write badly, you need some other way to interest your audience.

[identity profile] wednes.livejournal.com 2010-05-13 05:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Well sure. For one thing, if most of the creative work is done for you (characters, places, and histories all well-developed and beloved beforehand) the writer can concentrate on other aspects. And since the fandom is already well established, the fanfic writer doesn't have to market either.

For me, the most important part of crafting a novel is theme. Theme is the answer to readers question: why am I reading this? Why is it important? With fanfic, usually the answer is that the readers wants to see people having sex who didn't have sex in the original mileiu. ;-]

[identity profile] crowjoy.livejournal.com 2010-05-13 11:34 am (UTC)(link)
I knew a girl in high school who wrote volumes of notebooks (1984-85, these were paper notebooks, with lines! for pens!) about her torrid love affair with U2's The Edge and their madcap adventures on tour with the band. She was so ahead of her time!

Haven't thought of her in years. YOU TRIGGERED THAT!
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[personal profile] groovesinorbit 2010-05-13 01:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh God! A friend of mine and I used to make up stories of our lives with the Beatles in junior high.

[identity profile] wednes.livejournal.com 2010-05-13 05:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Wow...
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[personal profile] groovesinorbit 2010-05-13 01:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Fanfic can be fun to write (killing all the Cullens was a blast), but I do prefer to write my own stuff.

[identity profile] wednes.livejournal.com 2010-05-13 05:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Hence the phrase literary masturbation. I'm not saying it doesn't feel good sometimes, it's just not something that should be shared publicly. ;-]
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[personal profile] groovesinorbit 2010-05-13 07:30 pm (UTC)(link)
I get where you're coming from, and don't necessarily disagree. So much of it is just so bad and icky.

The one thing I'll say in my experience with fanfic is that writing those 100 drabbles I wrote over the winter is entirely responsible for me actually writing my own story now. It really helped me get past the "it has to be perfect" roadblock to the "just write it down already" place I'm at now. I'm grateful for that.

[identity profile] the-omega-man.livejournal.com 2010-05-14 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
You go, girl!

The "masturbation versus sex" metaphor is totally on the money:

Wanking may feel good, but sex actually brings forth the possibility of producing something original and wonderful. Just like you've done. :)

[identity profile] wednes.livejournal.com 2010-05-14 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
Aw, you're awesome, dude.

When I'm super wealthy, and my intellectual vanity expands and increases, I'm gonna need to hire a Minister of Praise. You know, to tell me how great I am all day long. My hope is that you'll be looking for work right about that time. ;-]

[identity profile] the-omega-man.livejournal.com 2010-05-14 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
Well, do look me up.

My rates are very reasonable and I do windows as well at no extra cost. ;)

[identity profile] jeffpalmatier.livejournal.com 2010-05-13 02:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Poppy cracked me up when she wrote how after reading a fanfic involving Jughead and Mr. Weatherbee getting together, she realized people will write about anything.

[identity profile] wednes.livejournal.com 2010-05-13 05:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Ha! That Poppy...

[identity profile] mella349.livejournal.com 2010-05-14 08:30 pm (UTC)(link)
While I do read some Harry Potter fanfics...I tend to agree with your opinion. It's one thing to analyze a character and think about them on your own time, it's another to decide you know better than the author what should happen in a story...

[identity profile] wednes.livejournal.com 2010-05-14 09:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Indeed. I must admit that I've read an HP fan fic or two that I didn't think was terrible. As long as the author is cool with it, like Ms Rowling, I have no real beef with it. It's just overtly, emphatically not for me. ;-]