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wednes ([personal profile] wednes) wrote2006-11-16 02:04 pm
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Six Months I'll Never Get Back

Which Hazel? got turned down by the publishing house I wrote it for. Mind you, they didn't ask me to write it, I just really thought they'd want it since I'm so great and Hazel is so great and blah blah blah. But they didn't. Which means that this particular house has actually turned me down twice (I sent them Sadie as well).

So...what does it actually mean when they say it "does not fit (their) publishing needs"?
It doesn't neccesarily mean I suck, does it? Or does it?
I doubt it. It probably means something more like "I don't know who you are or what this is, but we don't want to be bothered by your drivel" which at least means it's on them for not reading it.

Then again, Hazel is not really my best work. It's outside my genre of choice and was written for the purpose of being marketable. And it isn't, which I guess makes it a failure on many levels. Then again, even writing a shitty novel is probably good practice. Thankfully, the one I'm working on now is scarier, and much less shitty.

And now...to drown my sadness in a nice nap.
Later I'll get up, write, and maybe have a tuna melt.

[identity profile] nate101000.livejournal.com 2006-11-16 07:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe it's too marketable.

[identity profile] nate101000.livejournal.com 2006-11-18 05:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Well. To make it marketable you maybe pandered a little. And now it has no hook. If you catch my meaning. It's a nice story, well written and everything. But a nice pleasant well written story is a dime a dozen. They already have writers that can turn out nice pleasant stories. Why sign another?

[identity profile] wednes.livejournal.com 2006-11-18 10:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Duh...because it has a ghost in it!!

It may be just that I don't know enough about the genre, and my hostility toward chick lit is apparent. Or it may be that the chances I took (no sex scenes, romance falls apart in the end) worked only to my detrement.

[identity profile] nate101000.livejournal.com 2006-11-19 03:59 am (UTC)(link)
Throw in some graphic sex, have her end up with a great guy in the end and send it to a romance publisher.

[identity profile] wednes.livejournal.com 2006-11-19 05:07 am (UTC)(link)
She's supposed to get married in the sequel, which I could write as soon as this summer if I felt like it.

[identity profile] nate101000.livejournal.com 2006-11-19 08:00 am (UTC)(link)
Then maybe just the graphic sex.

[identity profile] roane.livejournal.com 2006-11-16 07:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Rejections suck. :( I will say though, "this doesn't meet our publishing needs" is a stock rejection phrase, and is, unfortunately, pretty meaningless. So no, it doesn't necessarily mean you suck, it probably doesn't mean anything except that it's time to send it off to the next desk. :)

Out of curiosity, and I'm not asking this to be snarky or anything, but if you don't think Hazel is your best work, why are you submitting it? Even if it seems like a marketable genre, if it's not your best, it's probably not going to sell.

But yeah, shitty novels are good practice--especially since they're usually not as shitty as their authors think they are. ;)

[identity profile] wednes.livejournal.com 2006-11-16 11:43 pm (UTC)(link)
LOL Good question!

One of the many published writers I know on LJ hipped me to a house that specifically wants edgy stories about fat girls. Since I consider myself somewhat of an expert, I took some time to write them a story. I also thought the chick lit genre would be easier to bust into than the horror market--especially since the market for chick lit/romance is frakin' huge.
After NaNo I'll look around and see if anyone else might want to take a gander at it. It's not that it's a bad book, it's just not what I'm most comfortable with. From readers, it got a positive response, but it didn't blow anyone away like my first novel did.

[identity profile] taryneve.livejournal.com 2006-11-16 07:53 pm (UTC)(link)
The house might've bought up all the novels they want for the time being, or they might've recently stopped doing those kind of novels.

There are plenty of presses out there, don't let one particular rejection stop you from finding a match.

[identity profile] leemoyer.livejournal.com 2006-11-16 08:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Yep. What s/he said.

Send it out far and wide.
Work it girl.

It may never work, but how will you know until you've passed it around?

[identity profile] wednes.livejournal.com 2006-11-16 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Sort of a "get back on the horse" message, eh?

It's totally true; I just need to stop feeling so bad. At least I'm a person getting rejections as opposed to people saying "someday I'll write a novel."

[identity profile] hortonhearsawho.livejournal.com 2006-11-17 02:12 am (UTC)(link)
At least I'm a person getting rejections as opposed to people saying "someday I'll write a novel."

Yes, exactly. Because that other person is currently me, especially after meeting with the undergraduate adviser for English who said herself her dream was to be a writer... and now she's herding snotty kids like me who would all love to be novelists someday through their English degrees that they'll ultimately use to go to law school or something equally as non-novelly. So, remember that you could be the very kindly lady shoved in a room barely big enough for two chairs, a desk, and a small book self asking English majors what their career goals are and replying with, "I always wanted to write." Not that there's anything wrong with academic advisers, but I doubt she has ever written that novel.

My point, because there was one, I think, is that you should not be discouraged! Because yay! You have written novels.

[identity profile] wednes.livejournal.com 2006-11-17 02:45 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks, sweetie.

[identity profile] leemoyer.livejournal.com 2006-11-17 03:24 am (UTC)(link)
Yup!

Hearing the bleating of pathetic people who are not even wannabes (they're more like wannawannabes who claim to want to work and never do) makes me alternately sad and furious. DO it or shut up is my view.

And since you've already done the work, send it around.
The more the merrier.

And if it needs revisions - revise.
but in the meantime get on with the next piece!.
Go go go!

[identity profile] wednes.livejournal.com 2006-11-17 03:56 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks, man.

In fact, my new novel is coming along rather well.

[identity profile] leemoyer.livejournal.com 2006-11-17 04:00 am (UTC)(link)
Excellent.

And beyond the work itself, persistence, critique, schmooze and network are the keys.

[identity profile] wednes.livejournal.com 2006-11-16 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks, that's basically the kind of encouragement I need.

Each rejection just seems to punch me right in the "deep down, you know you suck" button.

[identity profile] lickingtoad.livejournal.com 2006-11-17 02:30 am (UTC)(link)
There's a _button_ for that?! Holy Jesus, we're all doomed! :o

[identity profile] wednes.livejournal.com 2006-11-17 02:46 am (UTC)(link)
Disturbing, isn't it?

Don't forget that my party is a week from Saturday.
Or that I'm making warm spinach & artichoke dip.
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[personal profile] groovesinorbit 2006-11-16 09:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah, bummer. Sorry to hear that. But don't give up! Like everyone else is saying, just because one house rejects you, not every one will.

[identity profile] wednes.livejournal.com 2006-11-16 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I'll take that to heart, seeing as how you've actually read the novel in question.
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[personal profile] groovesinorbit 2006-11-17 01:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Indeed. Although the new one is grabbing me a little more, I have to admit. I think I like the horror genre better than the chick lit genre, too. In both, though, you've created two interesting protagonists that I immediately want to know more about. Strong female characters, yay!

[identity profile] wednes.livejournal.com 2006-11-17 07:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, there need to be a lot more of those.

[identity profile] vjsmom.livejournal.com 2006-11-17 05:41 pm (UTC)(link)
It's outside my genre of choice and was written for the purpose of being marketable. And it isn't, which I guess makes it a failure on many levels.

Don't be so hard on yourself! It wasn't marketable to this one publishing house, which doesn't mean it's not marketable at all and certainly doesn't mean it's a failure!!

[identity profile] wednes.livejournal.com 2006-11-17 07:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you for saying that. I do know this intellectually. It just doesn't feel that way when I'm staring at yet another rejection...and this was a long awaited one.