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wednes ([personal profile] wednes) wrote2006-06-23 02:08 am
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"It was a tragedy, I lost my whole family..."

Sitting here watching the first ever interview (for me, at least) with Ron DeFeo, I am again fascinated with the way different killers deal with the crimes they committed. There seem to be three basic types: The Proud, The Penitent, and The Longest River in Egypt. DeFeo appears to be in this latter catagory, along with greats like Manson, Bundy, and sometimes Berkowitz. So far this interview is a heapin' helping of here's what I think happened... followed by some tripe about his sister doing the killings. He has that Charliesque "You don't underSTAND MAN!!" attitude that pretty much defines this old vaudvillian era of mass murders and serial killers.

In case you're wondering, "Proud" killlers are those totally unapologetic about thier crimes. Arthur Shawcross, Henry Lee Lucas, Albert Fish, HH Holmes, and (sometimes) Berkowitz are examples of this. Penintent types include Dahmer, Aileen Wournos, Ed Gein...and sometimes Berkowitz. Anyway, this DeFeo is a huge, crazy liar and this interview is lame. Oh wait, he said his sister did it. Then later, he said his father hit him and his mother cheered him on so that's when he decided to kill them both. Maybe later it will be an assisted suicide *snerk*.

In other news, I'm getting really sick of the story about the naked proposing guy getting chased by the armed army drill sargent. I'm posting about it in the hopes that it will finally go away. Although those stupid fairy doors are still every damn where.

Since my job prospects are even lower that usual lately, I'm taking a stab at the JulNoWriMo because I can't seem to keep to a schedule unless I can chat about it with strangers. And since the WriYear people can kiss my ass, this will have to do.

One of my favorite hobbies is psychoanalyzing everyone I know. I like to determine what is "wrong" with everyone, and if possible, how that came to pass. So if I know you, and I've met your parents, watch out! It seems that the good people at The Onion enjoy that as well. So here, several days after it's release, here is this funny thing about America.

hm, shall I bite?

[identity profile] katharinakatt.livejournal.com 2006-06-23 07:23 am (UTC)(link)
Oh analize me! me me me!

(scared look)

I actually had one of my friends do this recently for me..someone that knows me a lot better... it wasn't as bad as I thought it was going to be.

Re: hm, shall I bite?

[identity profile] wednes.livejournal.com 2006-06-23 07:45 am (UTC)(link)
LOL, I don't think I know you nearly well enough to analyze you.

Basically, the shrinking I refer to comes from my need to "understand" where certain intolerable behaviors come from so that I can better accept them when they come from someone I know.

Like if someone is really bossy or mean, you might think they are just a tool. But then you meet (for example) their mother and she is bossy and controlling; so it all falls into place.
Then instead of thinking, "damn, what a tool" I can think "damn, how sad that being controlled by a domineering mother made this person such a tool."

Re: hm, shall I bite?

[identity profile] katharinakatt.livejournal.com 2006-06-23 08:11 am (UTC)(link)
Yes that's true.

Re: hm, shall I bite?

[identity profile] wednes.livejournal.com 2006-06-23 08:19 am (UTC)(link)
Not to mention, I only feel the need to shrink people if I think they are unaware of some vital (as defined by ME, of course) aspect of their own character. I must be fairly accurate too, since people almost never (successfully) argue my many courageous and deeply probing witticisms.

Re: hm, shall I bite?

[identity profile] katharinakatt.livejournal.com 2006-06-23 08:31 am (UTC)(link)
LOL.. but do you ever hear from them again? hehe
groovesinorbit: ani difranco (baseball cap ani)

[personal profile] groovesinorbit 2006-06-23 01:22 pm (UTC)(link)
What type would you say Starkweather was?

[identity profile] wednes.livejournal.com 2006-06-23 01:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, he's more of a a mass murderer and not a serial killer. They tend to be more remorseful as a rule, unless they kill themselves (although I guess that is a kind of remorse).

I actually don't know much about his trial, except the back and forth between he and Fugate. But I've never heard anything to indicate that he was remorseful, though he did say at one point that people shouldn't have made him so mad.
groovesinorbit: ani difranco (baseball cap ani)

[personal profile] groovesinorbit 2006-06-23 01:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I've heard him called a spree killer, as well. Which, of course, makes me picture him yelling "Whee!" as he killed everybody.

What little I've read, he seems to fall in the denial category. Even though he admitted to the murders, it was always because people made him mad, or attacked him first.

[identity profile] wednes.livejournal.com 2006-06-23 02:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I was just explaining to someone recently that you don't actually get to do whatever the fuck you want just because you are mad. But yeah, I'd probably say he was a Proud killer because killing was his way to "win" when people displeased him. That's one way to get the last word, I guess.
groovesinorbit: ani difranco (baseball cap ani)

[personal profile] groovesinorbit 2006-06-23 02:15 pm (UTC)(link)
I can see that, too. I was just reading about how he killed Fugate's little sister because she wouldn't shut up.

Did you know that Fugate lives in Michigan?

[identity profile] wednes.livejournal.com 2006-06-23 02:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes.

Another interesting factoid is that Starkweather, along with Ted Bundy, have the same birthday as Me: November 24.
groovesinorbit: ani difranco (baseball cap ani)

[personal profile] groovesinorbit 2006-06-23 02:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Interesting, indeed.

[identity profile] derekfz.livejournal.com 2006-06-27 02:26 am (UTC)(link)
What do you reckon is my proberlem, then?

[identity profile] wednes.livejournal.com 2006-06-27 03:45 am (UTC)(link)
Other than a stubborn unwillingness to address your depression, I think you're a-okay.