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wednes ([personal profile] wednes) wrote2005-11-28 02:59 am

Tuiti Fuckin' Fruity!!

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But Wednes, you may say, Why didn't you just finish? You're so close!!. Well, I'll tell you, I was beset by many drawbacks in the last day or so.

For one thing, I woke up from my nap Saturday having recieved three calls from Kwame. He's an interesting guy, and one I feel especially attached to because he reminds of my brother Mark. Anyway, Kwame thought my birthday party was this past Saturday and drove around for an hour looking for my place and phoning me to get directions. I felt so bad when I got his messages that I got all weepy and emotional.

Then about 5 in the morning, I started having an allergic reaction to my new mood stabilizing pills. I had finally gone up to the reccomended dosage after creeping up to it for almost 2 months. My glands got all swollen and I couldn't even wear headphones. I got a bunch of hives that kept going away and coming up somewhere else, and then my lips got all swollen. It was scary as hell. And then after a few hours, it went away all by itself. I know. Madness. I went back down to a lower dose until I can talk to my doctor in the morning.

Finally, and thanks in no small part to [livejournal.com profile] pak_man78's generosity, I watched The Devils Rejects tonight. I know a guy who says Die Hard is the Citizen Kane of action movies. Well, this movie is the Citizen Kane of slasheriffic, biker-style road movies. It has all the stuff I look for in a horror movie, and went well beyond my expectations. The gore was outstanding, the suspense was fullfilling with big payoffs, and crazy mother fuckers? You bet!!
I am always amused when directors set us up with horrible characters doing horrific things, and then turn it around and make you empathize with them. Two of my fave movies: Psycho and The Godfather do this as well and I just love it.
To find myself thinking "Oh no...poor Otis!" after what I've seen of him so far is pretty damn amazing. I mean, he's a very bad man. I also enjoyed having the familial relationships explained and dealt with. It went a long way towards making them seem more human. So thank you, Rob Zombie, for reminding people that some of us take horror very seriously, and want to love it very much.

PS William Forsythe and Ken Foree also kicked much ass!
My only complaint (because I must have one) is that I wanted Karen Black to come back.
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[personal profile] groovesinorbit 2005-11-28 03:58 pm (UTC)(link)
So cool! You're almost there. : )

I followed the link to your post about Mark. So sad. If you like, I can see what I can find on him, using my magic researcher powers. What's his full name?

[identity profile] uterdic.livejournal.com 2005-11-28 05:45 pm (UTC)(link)
A movie can't be the Citizen Kane of all "_______" after all of those things have occured in other movies. What makes Citizen Kane so important is that every movie since then has had things that were infulenced by that movie. "Die Hard" has influenced every action movie since it came out. It sounds like "Devil's Rejects" put all of the things that make movies good into one place and movie (sort of making it the opposite of that), but if it has things that you already look for in movies, then those things already occur in other movies, though maybe not so well defined as through this one. Also, it would have to influence all "slasheriffic, biker-style road movies" and since there haven't been too many of those since "DR" came out, it's not really possible to make that call on it.

Besides, wouldn't "The Road Warrior"/"Death Race 2000" sort of take that title?

Rejects

[identity profile] sleazeanna.livejournal.com 2005-11-28 05:59 pm (UTC)(link)
I could not agree with you more about the devil's rejects. what an amazing movie. I've already watched it like a zillion times, it's so addictive. And I know what you mean about empathizing with the "bad guys." As awful as they are, I fucking love them and they make me laugh. "What's the matter? Don't ya like clowns? Ain't we fuckin' FUNNY?"

And at least Baby didn't do that stupid laugh in this flick. She was way more believable. Karen Black sucks for not returning.

And I find Otis strangely hot. Even in Corpses, when he looks like a filthy freaky version of Kid Rock. I can't figure it out. But it makes me seriously wonder about myself.

Rob Zombie is so underrated as a filmmaker. I just movies that make me feel confused about what I'm feeling. But what happened to Grandpa? Are we to assume he just croaked within the 2 weeks after Corpses ended and before this flick started? what's up with that?

[identity profile] nate101000.livejournal.com 2005-11-28 06:16 pm (UTC)(link)
You should read 'In Cold Blood'. The character who does all the killin' is the one that you feel sorriest for. And the one who does no killing at all is truly evil.

I agree with [livejournal.com profile] pijeanf. Mark could be found. You don't even have to be involved directly. If anyone has to talk to your family, have someone who they will never recognize do it under a false name.

[identity profile] nate101000.livejournal.com 2005-11-28 06:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Wednes won't have seen Road Warrior. It's got Mel in it.

Other movie stuff

[identity profile] roane.livejournal.com 2005-11-28 06:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Hey. I found a movie in the freebie pile at work that has your name all over it. (Well, not literally. That'd be weird.) Interested in a screener DVD of Zombie Honeymoon? If so, email me your address or some other way to get it to you, and it's yours. :)

[identity profile] wednes.livejournal.com 2005-11-28 10:12 pm (UTC)(link)
His name is Mark Victor Gunder

Last known address: 222 W. 13 mile road. Royal Oak, MI

[identity profile] wednes.livejournal.com 2005-11-28 10:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, and huge thanks, of course!
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[personal profile] groovesinorbit 2005-11-28 10:19 pm (UTC)(link)
No guarantees, but I'll see what I can come up with at work tomorrow.

[identity profile] wednes.livejournal.com 2005-11-28 10:19 pm (UTC)(link)
I suppose you are correct in saying it's a little early to make the determination as to the influence of DR. It is a masterful fucking movie though. I guess it's more of a pinacle of sorts, and no good classic pinacle comparisions come to mind. Maybe Gladiator as that was kind of a sum total of Fx, cgi, and good old fashioned tiger wrangling, if I'm not being too abstract here.

And as you well know, I do not watch Mel Gibson movies unless they are directed by M Night Shamylan.

Re: Rejects

[identity profile] wednes.livejournal.com 2005-11-28 10:25 pm (UTC)(link)
I also have a bizzarre attraction for ghastly killing types, especially when they stab. Stabbing is so sexual in its well...penetrativeness. My prefeerred method of murder is stabbing, unless of course someone is being eaten alive by something.

I'm sure Rob Zombie isn't taken as seriously as he should be because he's known as a musician, and because too many people dismiss horror as insignificant to films at large. But there is always an audience for horror, it's even more pervasive than love stories (which i almost always hate). He is a movie maker for real horror fans; and I can't wait to see what he throws at us next.

And you know, I was so excited that Spaulding was the "Daddy" that I forgot all about Grandpa.

[identity profile] wednes.livejournal.com 2005-11-28 10:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I have indeed read In Cold Blood being very interested in Perry Smith for a time. Robert Blake played him in the amazing film, but there was so much left out.
You're quite correct, it's a fascinating psychological novel. In fact, one of the families in my zombie novel is named "Clutter" for just that reason.


[identity profile] nate101000.livejournal.com 2005-11-28 11:52 pm (UTC)(link)
They made a TV version where Anthony Edwards played Perry.

I've never seen either, but I read the book about 8 years ago, and I still have difficulty reconciling my compassion for Perry.

There really is a difference between a good person running with a bad crowd, and a bad person.

[identity profile] nate101000.livejournal.com 2005-11-28 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
WOW!!!

That is literally about 2 miles from the Royal Oak Music Theater. You must really love Tommy Chong.

[identity profile] wednes.livejournal.com 2005-11-29 03:17 am (UTC)(link)
Yep.

[identity profile] wednes.livejournal.com 2005-11-29 07:18 am (UTC)(link)
Well, sure.

Frankly, I'm amazed that we agree on this. I have some jerkoff over in Darkpaganism who totally went off on me over some capitol punishment thing.
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[personal profile] groovesinorbit 2005-11-29 02:20 pm (UTC)(link)
I found a Mark Victor Gunder at 4627 Berwyn Dr., Warren, MI 48092. The address is from his voter registration and is dated 2003. He appears to have bought the house with a woman named Rachel Douglas.

Hope this is your bro. *crosses fingers*

[identity profile] wednes.livejournal.com 2005-11-29 08:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Wow, holy crap.

I think I will send a letter.
That is so awesome.

I was trying really hard not to get my hopes up, but now they are up.
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[personal profile] groovesinorbit 2005-11-29 08:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Good luck! I hope it's your brother and all goes well.

[identity profile] wednes.livejournal.com 2005-11-29 08:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you so much. Surely, I'll be keeping people posted.

[identity profile] nate101000.livejournal.com 2005-11-29 09:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Well normally I'm all about personal choice. But Perry brings out the bleading heart in me.

[identity profile] wednes.livejournal.com 2005-11-30 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
Perry was clearly mentally ill, and was not in a fit state to make his own choices. Hooking up with that other guy, the lecherous one, was a fatal mistake.

[identity profile] nate101000.livejournal.com 2005-11-30 11:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe it's not so much that Perry is a good guy, but that the other guy, whose name escapes me, was so bad. Lusting after prepubescent girls is so YUK!!

Re: Rejects

[identity profile] nate101000.livejournal.com 2005-11-30 11:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Horror is even more disrespected as Sci-Fi.

[identity profile] wednes.livejournal.com 2005-12-01 01:02 am (UTC)(link)
To be fair, that girl was fifteen and likely post-puberty. Of course that does not make her an adult by any means.

But yeah, hooking up with a sociopath is a sure recipe for disaster.

Re: Rejects

[identity profile] wednes.livejournal.com 2005-12-01 01:03 am (UTC)(link)
Perhaps. But the Sci-Fi channel is doing very little to remedy that.

Re: Rejects

[identity profile] nate101000.livejournal.com 2005-12-01 02:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Too true. I don't think showing Aligator 2 does much for either genre.