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Judgement? Yes, have some...

Maybe I am getting too old to hang out with young people, or maybe I am far too judgemental. But I just invited a group of people from work over to hang out and drink and such. I did, however, ask that minors not drink at my house, simply because I don't trust many of them not to get into trouble and tell a cop where they've been drinkin'. Plus the apartment lease is in H's name.

Man, some of these people acted like fucking animals. My poor couch was turned into a grope fest. FYI, a love seat does not hold 2 couples. Out of 5 minors present, 4 drank. One girl actually sneaked into my kitchen to get liquor then, lie and say she wasn't drinking. When I called her out (she was obviously drunk) she lied again and said she had "a sip". While kids drinking is not a horrible crime I suppose, lying to your hostess while you are a guest in thier home is just fucking wrong. People missed the toilet, put ice trays and liquor bottles in the freezer empty, and one of the kids talked to my chest even more than usual. My home got treated like I was hosting the "drunken barn dance" and I am not amused.

So tell me, should I have expected this when I invited people over? Or are some of these people the inconsiderate jerks I think they are? I have guests all the time, and usually they all end up getting fucked up, but it is still possible to be wasted and still have basic manners and show basic courtesy...am I right?

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COmplete and total jerks! Losers, too, if you ask me.

Thanks, I feel better knowing you agree with me. Although frankly, I think that small things are starting to make me unduly upset again, and as such, I am seeing the doc tomorrow. Maybe some pills d' joie de vivre will chill me right out.

Let me also say, in case it was not clear, the other half of my guests were great, and a swell time was had.

....before the first comma of this entry. I think it's kinda sad when people in their 30s are still hanging around with 20-year-olds and under. Rightfully, a generation gap should have developed by then between the two groups. In this case, it seems to be an example of how manners have slowly swirled further down the toilet in the last dozen years. 'Tis a sad thing. But anyway, I'm glad the party was mostly fun.

And BTW, I thought your latest entry read "Bitch"! Those ornate W's throw me every time.

Anthony

That's why the subject line is what it was...dumbass.

And quit calling my social life sad, like you should talk. i work at a mall, young people work there. And unlike you, I'm actually kind of hip, so I get to have friends of all ages, from 16 to 60...much more interesting than having a small number of drinking and sex buddies that you can't really talk to about stuff.

You know how I'm supposed to remind you when you're acting like an ass...remind remind.

I don't know why you still seem to think you're in charge of how everyone should act. I thought I was the most judgemental person around, but I guess not. And BTW, nice of you to insult me in front of all of LJ. Very considerate.

So, hanging out with those 20 and under *is* your social life? You've implied as much, not me. No one's forcing you to hang around your co-workers after work. All I'm saying is, peoples' likes, dislikes, tastes, habits, etc. evolve (or should evolve) over time. I would hope you're a better, or at least different, person at 31 than you were at 21. Nuthin' insulting about that, I don't think, especially if that's the case.

Anthony

Well, I guess you could infer that if you haven't been paying attention to anything I've aid or done for the last 6 years we've known eachother. You act like you haven't met any of my freinds when I know you've met many of them.

I'm sorry you take issue with the fact that I am friends with people I work with even though they are (gasp!) young. Spending time with lots of different kinds of people is one way that we, as humans, learn, grow and change. I everyone I hung out with was just like me, we'd run out of conversation far too soon. And you dont' learn anything new spending time with only those who agree with you.

And in case you're an idiot, calling someones social life "sad" is insulting. Kind of like when you called me "lower than low" for taking a Gideon from a hotel room, then insisted that wasn't insulting either.

You're being a judgemental prick, but don't worry, its not an insult...

Eh, it was pretty much what I expected. It wasn't too awful. The groping was really annoying, and so was, what's her name, but if she has the chance to hang out again, I won't let her get away with anything. She was so full of BS, that I thought she was going to pop. I liked the vast majority of them. They were loud, but not too loud, and it was an after work party on a Saturday night. It's a different crowd than you're used to dealing with, so the behavior will be different. All in all, not a terrible time. I think they liked being there.

Next time, I'll invite the Üter Dics, and then you can have storied for your grandchildren.

I agree with that. Most of the crowd were awesome and I did have a good time having them over. I am though, not used to how obnoxious some teenagers can be.

Everyone gets to come back except the one chick. the problem is, her friend is also a youngin' and she is really cool. The girl who sang opera...

Jerks.
They were kids.
I guess you should have expected it, but still I dont remember be so rude when I was so young. Not that I am much older mind you.... but I think I have more manners.

The thing is, people have to LEARN how to act civilized when they're drunk. Well, in my experience anyhow.

Do they have a school for that, or perhaps a weekend seminar?

That sucks, that's one reason I hate having get togethers at my apartment. And I don't think that there's anything wrong with hanging out with younger/older people. Right-

You're so damn cool! Come live with us, here in lovely Ann Arbor...

Wet Hot American Summer was on the preview weekend cable TV had this weekend. As I was out seeing One Hour Photo, I missed much of it, but caught some. What a great cast!! It looked like it was really funny, so I'll be inspired to rent it soon.

I thought you saw it already. Go rent it now.

Quit bossing me.

Well go and get it then. And there is a fine line between bossing and harrassing. Same with cuting in line. Oh man that pushes my buttons.

why can't I push your buttons? It sounds like fun!

You don't want to see me go nuts, trust me. It's really crazy and it scares me with how non threatening it is.

Sounds HOT!

Hot in the lame sense, exactly.

Hanging out with "20-somethings" is neither twisted nor sad. Trying to *be* a "20-something" is a bit sad, but the age of your friends is something you worry about when you're in Jr. High, not as an adult.

That said...they were jerks, morons, and I would advise against inviting them over again. That has *NOTHING* to do with their chronological age and everything to do with their personalities and emotional maturity. It may also have to do with some of the expectations you set up..."invited a group over to drink and such" implies a bit wilder party than "invited a group over to play cards and watch TV". *heh* It sounds like you tend to like to have people over to get wasted, and that's fine...but don't expect people in an altered state of mind to behave. Some do, most don't. I don't tend to like that type of behavior at all, so most of my friend-pool isn't into that, and if they are, they refrain in my home.

When I was 20ish, I began hosting weekly gatherings in my home. We had between 5 and 15 people, and NOTHING ever got trashed. (Beyond accelerated wear and tear on the furniture...to be expected). No one smoke *or* drank in my house, period. We played poker, ate too much food, watched sci fi, and played computer games. Sometimes I'd go to bed and they'd still be at it the next morning, or they'd let themselves out. My *worst* problem with them was training them to use a coaster. Pretty minor stuff.

These gatherings continued for 10 years, and I threw in the occasional parties of 50+ people. In all that time, I've had a few glasses broken, one picture frame crunched, and a few glasses of cider/pop upended on the carpet. That's all. But I don't provide alcohol, no one is allowed to do drugs, and the few people who choose to bring and consume alcohol are very mellow about it.
I don't know what it would have been like if they were getting "fucked up".

My friends may be a bit dorky, but they are not animals. They weren't when they were 19, they're not now that they're in their early 30's. And yes, we still have a few early-20's people hanging around. If this KIND of party no longer appeals to you or your domestic tranquility...it's not the kids, it's the need to form a different kind of social structure. Maybe you're not getting too old for the age of the guests, but for that kind of social bonding...just a thought.

Oh my Goddess no, I would never want to be a 20ish chick again, unless of course i got to change a few of my academic and/or financial choices. Debt sucks.

Anyway, indeed, most of my new pals @ the theatre are great people, and many of them will indeed be invited back. Several others, however, will not. As revruin pointed out, many kids need to learn how to handle themselves responsibly. Some do this by experimenting to see where thier appropraite limit is, others do it by getting as drunk as possible.

As you may know, I am actually not much of a drinker. So I am certainly not used to having lots of drunk people over, and was assuming a certain maturity level that just wasn't there in several guests. So I have learned yet another good lesson. The fact that young kids drinking booze often act out is not lost on me, which is why I asked minors to not drink. When they disregarded me and drank anyway (including a bottle of wine that would have lasted me a week if I drank "a lot" and a some liquor which was brought by guests of legal age), I was pretty upset.

Again, 3 drinks for me is a lot, so I was picturing something a bit more restrained. Overall though, a good time was had by most.

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