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wednes ([personal profile] wednes) wrote2006-03-14 02:13 pm
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Employment Question:

Okay, so I got offered a job interview at Concordia College, which is a small private college very near me.

The listing I answered was a different listing than what they have on their website.



I answered an ad that said: Office & Clerical
Administrative Asst. F/T, small Christian nonprofit in Ann Arbor. Must be highly organized, friendly, adept in MS Office programs $10-12/hr+excellent benefits. Fax resume to 734-xxx-7974 or email xxxxxxx@juno.com


But the site ad says:

MOST Ministries is seeking a committed Christian who has computer and office skills to maintain website, create brochures, and other various clerical duties. Proficient skills in written and oral communication and efficient organizational skills are necessary as well as a working knowledge of computer graphics and design.

Blah blah blah, skip ahead:

Requirements:

Strong Witness to Jesus Christ, a Reflection in all Capacities
High School Diploma, Advanced Education Preferred
3-5 years experience in office setting
Demonstrated, excellent secretarial skills with the ability to prioritize
Good verbal and written communication with attention to detail
Ability to Receive, Handle and Transfer Telephone Calls and Messages Accurately, Promptly and Courteously
Ability to accurately and efficiently organize, file, and maintain records and files


I realize that they are a private college, but is it really legal to require such a thing? This is even more annoying than Comcast and their "what do you do when you're not at work" style drug test.

Too bad, too. I have great respect for sincere Christians who actually follow the teachings of Jesus.
Plus, I really need a damn job.

[identity profile] flinx.livejournal.com 2006-03-14 07:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Unfortunately, as they're a private institution and they're up-front about this requirement, then, yes, they can do as they damn well please. If this was something that they'd instituted after 10 or 15 years and then laid people off due to, that'd be grounds for suit.

Otherwise... I thought Concordia was a Catholic college? Asking for 'witnesses to Christ' puts them way over on the (*icky icky poo*) evangelical side. *scratches head* Although they are just across the street from the Lutheran Synod's local HQ...

[identity profile] onstar.livejournal.com 2006-03-14 07:36 pm (UTC)(link)
That really does smack of discrimination and doesn't seem to fit the picture of being a sincere christian. I dealt with MOST ministries as part of my job once, and if it makes you feel any better, the workplace is in what seems to be a tiny cinderblock building with not much sunlight, and the women that I dealt with were very crabby.
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[personal profile] groovesinorbit 2006-03-14 07:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Ugh. But yeah, private schools can do whatever they want. Theoretically, they can't take any Federal or state funding because of that, though. How that works in practice nowadays, I have no idea.

[identity profile] lirrin.livejournal.com 2006-03-14 07:55 pm (UTC)(link)
It's legal for a Christian organization to require that. They can't make exceptions or pick and choose, but they can make it a bonafide requirement of working there. Like making all your staff be over 21 in a bar isn't age discrimination, or making all your locker room attendants be of the same gender as the locker they're working in isn't gender discrimination.

Does suck, though. I'd get the oogin's working in a place like that, frankly.

[identity profile] thehula.livejournal.com 2006-03-14 08:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Technically, they're not allowed to even ask you about it, I don't think. But they probably get around it somehow. Even private companies are not allowed to discriminate based on religion. That's why the two different ads, I bet.

[identity profile] klynnfrost.livejournal.com 2006-03-14 08:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Concordia is Luthren, and I don't think you would be very happy there.

When I was there, my friend in the dorm was told to take her rainbow flag down from her window because it was a learning distraction and they had recieved numerous complaints. I asked someone at the Faith Action Network if that was even legal and he said, unfortunatley, yes.

Aside from that, they make their educators sign a contract that states they won't teach anything that goes against the church, if that's anymore of an indicator.

[identity profile] derekfz.livejournal.com 2006-03-14 10:23 pm (UTC)(link)
I was going to, as I'd told myself last night, call you (ON THE TELEPHONE, NO LESS) tonight because in just one week I'll be traveling to Ann Arbor and I wanted to discuss with you the whole visiting, etc. thing, but I can't do much talking right now on account of it hurts and makes me want to rip half of my face off (as is explained in my to-be-posted-in-a-few-moments-time next journal entry) but obviously, I need to be in contact with you about it at some point. Um.. e-mail me or something in response to this comment (and I'll see if I'm in better talking condition in a day or two.)

[identity profile] uterdic.livejournal.com 2006-03-14 10:44 pm (UTC)(link)
If they ask during the interview, be honest and ask them to forgive you for your sins.

[identity profile] maxverbosity.livejournal.com 2006-03-15 12:49 am (UTC)(link)
They're a Lutheran school, I think. Sadly, private schools can basically make their own requirements when it comes to most anything.

[identity profile] vjsmom.livejournal.com 2006-03-15 02:35 am (UTC)(link)
I must say I'm surprised. I knew a guy who went to Concordia--he was a really cool guy--free-spirited, smart, nice, never talked about religion with me (we mostly smoked stuff together). Of course, that was 20+ years ago--I suppose the school could have changed a bit. Or maybe that guy was not the typical Concordia student.